JET Test and tune in the winterstorm
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JET Test and tune in the winterstorm
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Wow, you people are dedicated@!  Thank you to everyone who attended and helped make this happen.  Mader sure is going to be busy on the track soon, since it was destroyed this weekend.  It is a true race track and sure can dial for late
race conditions!   Our test riders left cold and happy even though we nearly melted our shop down with the SDCI shop heaters.  All of you riders and families were great to have and thank you for your business, JET is glad to be part of your 2010 season and we are dedicated to help you achieve your racing goals this year.

We will be reviewing the schedule for the next JET Test & Tune Session since the schedule is now in full swing with the Dealer show this weekend, IXCR next, GNCC, the week after and Mid -south the weeks after that, then the Iowa Series starts up which we will also be supporting.

It is amazing how blessed we are to have everyone's work to put this on and everything they do behind the scenes to put on a suspension test session, I can't thank you enough and sure glad to have you around.

A special thank you to our Chase riders:
Travis Mader
Craig Bowman
Kevin Blundell

and our workers:
Jordan Gilkerson - GNCC IXCR and JET Suspension Technician
Seth Bowen - IXCR, JET Suspension Tech and Rose Hulman Student
Coty Coffman - JET Service TEch
Daniel Norman - IXCR one of the hardest workers i've met
Jake Maloy - IXCR
Roger Adams - My dad and racing mechanic for 37 years
Todd Corray - One hard worker and mechanic for Alex Ray
Dave Bayless - Sprint car mechanic and owner, and now JET Ockerman IXCR owner
Andy Hurtubise - Midget / Sprint Car driver and son of Indy 500 racing legend Jim Hurtubise

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What the JET Suspension Test and Tune Session is all about

 

The purpose of the test and tune session is to;

·        improve your speed,

·        dial in your static suspension settings – (ride height, race sag, camber, castor, toe)

·        improve you body position and riding techniques by help of instruction

·        dial in your dynamic suspension settings – (front and rear springs, crossovers, shock compression and rebound dampening etc.)

·        get followed by a chase rider to help you fine tune your riding position and how you are addressing obstacles

 

What we will be doing;

·        riding – while we are watching and taking notes

·        Scaling the quad

·        Static setup –

·        Discussing notes

·        Riding more

·        Changing front and rear springs

·        Working on shock settings and if needed re-valving shocks.

 

What is included in the price;

·         riding, all setup work and shock disassembly if needed

·         lunch

 

What is available for extra cost;

·        Springs if needed

·        Any extra parts if needed

 

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Q:  How should I test and tune my suspension?


A:  Write down all of your settings before you start.  I don't suggest testing in muddy conditions unless you already have a solid setup on regular conditions.  If you start riding and you're just not feeling it, then try it another day.  First make sure your static setup is correct so you're not trying to bandaid an issue.  Next, try to figure out the rear of the quad first, then the front - working with springs first, then dampening settings.  Of course I would like for you to attend our test and tune session, we are known for problem solving suspension issues. 

 

 
 
 
 
 
Camber - (Not adjustable with most stock a-arms unless you have our JET camber modified upper a-arm).  First take a couple of tie-downs and hook from the handlebar grips to the rear plastic or grab bar and measure to center the handlebar.  Once this is complete, you don't have to worry about knocking the tires out of place.  Now take an L square and butt up against the front tires and measure the gap at the top (pay attention to the raised lettering or knobbies, this can really mess you up).  I don't worry about someone sitting on the quad to adjust camber or toe since it is a very small change unless your stem and rod end setup creates a lot of bump steer.  On my quad, it only changes by less than 1/16".  Now adjust the ball joint in or out until you reach 3/8" ~ 1/2" and make sure both sides are equal.  Also, take special not to rotate the ball joint out of place when tightening down or you could break a ball joint.  Make sure the top of the ball joint is parrallel to the top of the spindle or SNAP, when you least expect it!
 
Always set camber first because this WILL change toe, if at some point camber is adjusted, you must go back and re-adjust toe!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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You can see there is enough air pressure.
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Matt Sillery with a camber and roll issue, stock 450R a-arms

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The purpose of camber is for the tire to provide maximum foot print and therefore GRIP in the center of the corner.  During cornering, suspension components flex, ball joints flex and the tire's sidewall rolls.  This results in a tire that rolls over on it’s side losing traction.  Leaning the outside tire in (or “negative camber”) compensates for this “tire roll”.  Check out the LF tire of #45. 
 
WARNING!  Make sure your a-arms bushings are in good shape, otherwise, this is going to be very screwed up.
   
Amount of change: set it and don’t mess with it.
Starting point: 3/8" ~ 5/8” -- negative camber
Amount of handling change you will feel: medium
Importance level (should I mess with it or not?): medium
•    Lower tire pressures will require more camber
•    See “TIRE” section (below) first, and run the correct tire and tire pressure.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

You can see the tire rolling over on entry @ 5lbs!
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Justin Lewicki with air pressure and camber issue

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The end result is you want the front tire to be straight up and down through the corner to provide the best turning traction.  Parts bend and tires flex under load; there is play in rod ends, ball joints, etc.  All this causes the tire to roll up on its side under cornering which decreases the foot print and kills steering traction.  Check out an Indy car, Formula one or NASCAR.  At times, they are running as much as 10°.
1.    However, make sure the air pressure is correct before leaning the tire in further. 
2.    Always set camber before setting toe and obviously after changing camber, toe must be reset.
3.    A good starting point is ½” from the bottom of the tire to the top of the tire.  This is easiest measured with an L square set up against the outside of the tire.  AFTERMARKET a-arms, we will typically set at 3/8 ~ 1/2" and stock 1/2 ~ 5/8".  Aftemarket a-arms, like ARS FX, Tex Tech, Leagers etc.. are larger tube and an over all stouter a-arm and have less deflection - however, most use the same upper ball joint. This is why we start with slightly less on aftermarket stronger arms versus stock.
4.    The more camber the more difficult it is to steer.
5.    Too much camber will cause a "darty" feel in the bumps.
6.    A great way to check is to have someone take a picture in the center of the corner at speed and look at the outside tire.
7.    Oval track racers will run negative camber on the outside tire and positive camber on the inside tire.  In this instance both tires should be straight up in the center of the corner as listed above, providing maximum traction. 
With oval track racers, correct camber can be fine-tuned by checking tire temperature across the tread.  TT Racers will be determined by the turns in the track.  Since checking tire pressure on ATV's is usless for all but TT, a picture says a thousand words...

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Negative Camber

 
Tires
 
Obviously, the issue of tire choice is extremely important.   Track conditions are critical in that choice.  Many racers have a few sets of rear tires mounted up and they will make the selection based on the track and conditions.  A tire's #1 affect is to provide traction – pretty obvious I know, but there are several other items that tires affect, which if not chosen correctly, will cause other parts of the suspension to suffer.  You may find you are adjusting your suspension and not realize that you are band-aiding how the vehicle feels because of a certain choice of tire, wrong pressure, or wrong size.  A secondary tire affect is to provide a lack of traction. 
 
Too tall a tire will cause a high ride height and poor cornering.  Example: an ATV racer was running too tall of a tire.  Not realizing this, he compensated by reducing his spring preload to lower his ride height.  This made it corner better, but now his race sag was off and the quad was too soft to take the bumps.  How many springs did he buy in order to run those 22” rear tires?  After several spring purchases and handling problems, he was finally convinced to run 20” rear tires (XC).

If you are not sure what tire to use, at least start with a tire that you know works.  Do you mean run what the pros are running?  Yes, there is a reason they are running those tires.  If people are winning on them, they work.   Use them!
 
Once you have chosen that tire, find a tire pressure that works.  Take a good ride on a tacky track and have someone take a picture of you in the middle of the corner on the gas...and look at the rear tire. 
  • Is the tire rolled over too much? 
  • Does it look like it is biting good? 
  • Is the rim about to hit the ground? 
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  • Are the tires spinning?
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Wesley Fruits -- Indiana GNCC
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Hmm...the track is even dusty. Do you think the quad is pushing in the center of the corner?


 
Some points to consider: 
•    Correct sizing
•    Correct rim width
•    Sidewall height (8”, 9” or 10” diameter)
•    Using tire balls
•    Air pressure
•    Whether or not to groove
 

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